and nothing says science, space, and technology like representative lamar smith. he's a climate change skept particular. so what was that that the gop chairman said about this election? >> i don't think you can draw any quick conclusions other than the fact that we lost and we know that. >> about that, i think i have a couple of quick conclusions. joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, now an nbc news political analyst and cynthia tucker, pulitzer price columnist. thank you both for being here this evening. >> our pleasure. >> good to be here, reverend. >> cynthia, let me go to you first. why didn't the gop get the message? what are they thinking about with these committee chairs? >> well, that's a great question, rev? why didn't they get the message? for one thing, if they wanted to present people of color as committee chairs, they don't have -- they have very few to call on. they have a very small handful of latino men in the house and now that allen west is still there for the rest of this year and that leaves scott of south carolina of the